A little pricey but worth it. Was always skittish about going to carbon wheels (I was a VERY later adopter), but these pads are EXCELLENT.
I was using the Yellow pads with my Vision Metron 40 full carbon wheels but they were quite loud and the stopping power wasn't great so I switched to the Black - much better performance and almost no squeaking.
Great pads just wished they last longer. I ride Mt Diablo and various rides that go up and down, down and flats with stops where I use the brakes. I think I change pads at least once a year if not sooner which becomes pricey.
I've had other carbon-specific brake pads on my rims, including ones made specifically for these rims. The Swissstop Flashpro pads outperform these pads, but are quieter as well! Love them!
Black Prince Carbon brake pads really do what they say they do. I have cork pads previously and was not impressed with the stopping power as they seemed to create a hard surface on the pads. The Black Prince stay soft and i even have to watch out as not to lock the tires up on quick stops. Good stuff!
Works better than the Reynolds cryo blue I was using.
Quiet and has good brake moduation. Yes, they appear to be wearing
faster than some other pads but that is how it goes in a high performance
brake pad (on your bike or your car for that matter)
good for carbon rims
I had used cork pads prior to purchasing the SwissStop pads and was very unhappy with my stopping power. The SwissStop Prince pads are great the difference is dramatic I highly recommend these brake pads.
I've ridden Black Princes on terrain with steep descents, in hot, dry, and wet conditions. I can't tell much difference from the Swiss Stop yellows or Reynolds blue pads, except that the Black Princes wear more quickly. My main reason for buying them is safety, specifically, Black Princes supposedly dissipate heat better so you're less likely to overheat and destroy your rims. Im willing to pay a little more for this safety feature even if the pads' braking action feels very ordinary.
Switched the Yellow King pads for these (Black Prince) for my race wheels. There was a noticeable improvement in braking. Swiss Stop says that the Black Prince pads give the same stopping ability with carbon braking surfaces as their black pads do for alloy surfaces. This seems to be true based on my experience. I definitely like these more than the Yellow King pads.
Use these brake pads with my carbon clinchers. They have worked very well in the dry and do not seem to cause a lot of heat build up in the brake track of the carbon wheels. I am not a great desender, so the heat build up is critical for me weighing 190 lbs. I have 25mm wide wheels so fitting them to the TRP brake carrier was a challange with Shimano 7800 brake calipers. Not enough room, so I mounted them without the angle adjustment washer. They are now fully seated to the brake track. This took about two training rides to get all four pads to set fully to the brake track. I have great stopping power as I can lift my rear wheel off the ground and cause a rear wheel lock up if I do not modulate the front brake.
Swissstops had it good already with the yellow king but im glad they didnt stop there the black prince is better it grabs pretty good and best part it doesnt leave a yellow streak on the braking surfacem i use this on ec90s and sram red brakes i think imo is as close i can get to alu brake track
I am impressed with how smooth and linear the breaking is with these pads. I find that they brake a lot like regular pads on aluminum rims. I find that they stop better than my swissstop yellow kings. They do wear down quickly, but the added security on my Mavic cosmic ultimates is worth it. The website suggests that they stop well in the rain, but I have not tested this out yet.
I bought these to run with my Mad Fiber carbon wheels to test if they would perform better in very wet conditions in Seattle, and they did not perform well, literally wouldn't stop me on a repeated descent down a 11% grade to a stop sign and it was dangerous. These may work well in dry conditions, but I had to remove them in the first week after failing my stop tests and went back to cork pads to protect myself in rain.
