Wish the first ones that were too small could have been returned. Went on the website to return them and it wouldn't let me click on them to return despite receiving them that day. I kept forgetting to call so that's $120 that I'll never get back. I definitely wouldn't say that these are a good value twice the price. But I'd recommend them.
I have owned similar De Soto tri shorts before and they were always an excellent fit. Although the quality of these shorts is outstanding, the fit is awkward. I primarily wear them to spin class. Without the waist draw string being tightly secured, they will not stay up.
Use for running or cycling. You will not notice or feel the internal crotch fabric. Cheers.