These are fine commuter shorts but I wouldn't recommend them for trail or gravel riding for longer than about two hours because the padded liner isn't up to it. I find it chafes and the padding is too puffy, not dense enough. The outer short is light weight, not much heavier than running shorts. The backwards facing pockets are nice for keeping your phone or energy bar from falling into your inner thigh but it takes some getting used to when you're not actually on the bike. The waistband closure is not a button or snap but a hooked belt - unusual but it works fine. I wish the liner was removable for washing and for when I want to use a better short underneath.
