These are really well made shorts. Every detail is done well. They are great for mellow trail rides and gravel rides but are not full enough in the thigh for knee pads and more aggressive riding. I thought they were a little pricey at full retail so I bought them on sale and bow realize they are completely worth the original price.
Road riding, over bib. Slim fit, no flapping in the wind. Pockets are usable unlike other shorts that I have owned.
