These are comfortable and the thick, dense and well supportung chamois is fantastic for longer days on root heavy trails. I tend to rely on my liners to help keep my knee pads in place and this is where these fall short for my personal use. The legs are very comfortable and dont tend to bunch but are not tight on the thigh at all and dont work to help keep knee my pads in place. Im sure thats not a problem for most people, but its my only complaint as they pertain to my needs.
