I ordered these shoes and when they arrived, I noticed the tongue sewn in to a stable position. Nothing wrong with that though. A lot of shoes do that. Of course, I know how to sew in the areas I needed to lock the tongue in place. The shoes are a fantastic fit. I thought the tread might be too slippery to walk around in but i found out differently. The problem with them is that I wear them around a lot of the time but I don't want to wear the sole out before I get the rest of the shoe out on the road.
I had ridden Look peddles and cleats all my life minus the time before them when we had to lock our feet in with toe clips and i wanted to get these shoes to be able to go in to stores more when i ride my city bike. So I switched all my cleats AND peddles over to SPD's. I wanted to learn the new clipping of the cleats while I ride this winter on the trainer. It was very easy to set the cleats and learn the new locking-in.
I would recommend these shoes to anyone wanting shoes with some tread and wanting to be able to walk in. If you walk in mud, it builds up in the cleat area but it's an easy clean. I never buy shoes that are even snug because I know how a perfect fit is with a shoe......The number on the box has nothing to do with the length.....it tells you where the arch is built in to the shoe, and, also where the ball of your foot is so your shoe will fit perfectly with the peddle axle. I know you all may not understand all that but if you follow the premise, you won't ever get numb toes. These shoes are a perfect width.
This shoe seems to be a very good value for the price I paid. They seem a tad heavy but overall still have been serving me very well. And the shipping time was exactly as expected, or it may have been one day early.